The argument for Doug Hoffman
Erick Erickson is one of the most prominent conservative bloggers to take up the Hoffman banner.
A couple of posters to the In Box conversation have pointed out, fairly I think, that we need to see an argument on the right comparable to the one that Frank Rich makes in the NY Times today.
Erickson gives a concise, articulate and zealous summary of the argument for Doug Hoffman.
Friends, it is not every race. It is not every issue. It is not all the time. It is rarely, if ever, all or nothing. There is always room for disagreement. But when confronted by the facts, issues, and positions of the candidates in NY-23, as in the Florida Senate race, we either hang together or we might as well hang separately.In the 24 hours since this became a 2-way race, Erickson has called for resignations and firings among the Republican leadership, so he can hardly be described as a GOP mouthpiece.
(Similarly, Frank Rich is often out of step with the Democratic leadership...)
In the day since Dede Scozzafava dropped out, some of his argument is dated, but the essay still articulates well why many conservatives see this as a key national race -- and why they view some local issues as "parochial" -- to quote Dick Armey.
Read the full post here.
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posted by Brian Mann @ 11/01/2009 01:20:00 PM
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10 Comments:
One more , or fifty more, conservatives in Congress will not solve anything. The reason is simply this, according to the Center On Budget and Policy, the fastest growing part of the Budget from 2001-2008, is Security and Defense. All other parts of the budget actually decreased in the percentage of the total cost. ( See the Table below).
Unless Conservatives are willing to deal with that part of the Bidget, and their leaders have no intention of going near it, then all else is a band aid.
Conservatives have never balanced a budget in their lives, and it will not happen now. Earmarks do not amount to a hill of beans, even if you did away with all of them.
Table 1:
Domestic Discretionary Funding Is a Shrinking Share of Total Program Costs
Share of Total 2001 2008 Change
Defense & security 21.7% 29.2% +7.5%
Social Security, Medicare/caid 45.9% 43.5% -2.4%
Other mandatory programs 14.0% 12.5% -1.4%
Domestic discretionary 18.4% 14.7% -3.7%
Total program costs 100% 100% 0.0%
The complete breakdown can be seen at : http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=125
It is sad to see the end of the people being represented as the purpose of elections. What happens when it is good for the people of a District bad is opposed to the ideology of the Conservative Party? Simple says the Conservative. Vote the Party line, lock arms, get in step and do it, or you will be excommunicated......That is a Giant Leap from the Founding Fathers idea of a Republic.
Conservatives like Hoffman want to eliminate Social Security and Medicare.
Only the wealthy should support him.
Hoffman is an example of the tragedy of modern American politics. We barely have anyone in our district that makes enough to benefit from the 'tax cuts' he will be unable to deliver.
Instead he will help move the tax burden onto the middle class. Take public college tuition. He doesn't live in our district, he doesn't know local issues, but he does hate Nancy Pelosi!
Anonymous said...
Conservatives like Hoffman want to eliminate Social Security and Medicare.
Only the wealthy should support him.
November 2, 2009 2:12 AM
What a STUPID comment to make. Nothing could be further from the truth. You obviously get your info from Keith Olbermann and Al Sharpton. Do a little research and educate yourself kid.
November 2, 2009 8:43 AM
There is some truth in what the person said. Social Security and Medicare are what true conservatives call " socialism."
Yes, they wanted to privatize social security-a very good thing they did not get their way as seen by the market crash. health care being considered by congress is really like an extension of medicare. ( imagine your grnadmother trying to get health care from the private sector at todays prices).
You may want to use some alternative news/information sources. Keep in mind that stations like Fox are entertaining, but only a fool would use that as their primary source of news.
To say "conservatives" want to end Social Security and Medicare is beyond ridiculous. I AM a conservative, I've been listening to the argument for 20 years and I think I have a pretty good grasp on what "we" want since I'm active in the movement.
To put it simply we want an end to the wanton waste of a bloated gov't and the never ending drain on our economy. It's that simple. No one on my side wants grandma eating cat food and little kids in poor houses. You who say we do are damn liars, no beating around the bush on that.
Now when you're readyu to think and act like an adult I'd be happy to discuss this in an adult manner. But if all you people want to do is an Al Franken imitation then we'll get nowhere.
BTW- Why don;t you people try using a screen name so we can understand who is who?
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0205-05.htm
Here you will find, beginning with Goldwater, the conservative desire to privatize social security. It is from a reliable source.
This is nothing new. some highlights include.
"Speaking for Goldwater in a 1964 televised speech that helped launch his own political career, Ronald Reagan endorsed the idea of turning retirement security over to the private sector."
Tom DeLay, the great conservative indicted on criminal conspiracy charges by a Texas Grand Jury , spoke recently on the chris matthews show and was very open in saying he would just as soon see both medi care and social security done away with..an honest man..
I am sure your intentions are good ones, but your research does not go far enough. democrat, republican, conservative, not one group is one bit better than the other. they all have their faults. a little from each would make the best party, but that would take a sort of give and take that just does not exist in the present day conservative party. that is self evident.
I agree with part of what you wrote, but your first mistake is assuming Delay is a conservative. Not. After that your argument falls apart.
First thing you do if you want to think like a true conservative- look whose hand in in your pocket, follow it and you'll find it's attached to a two headed demon called a Republicrat. After that, the rest is simple.
November 2, 2009 7:44 PM ,
That is the classic response. You cannot prove a negative. Works everytime. Anytime a conservative does not meet the standard, he is then called a rino or some other name...it would appear that conservatives all live in one state, the State of Denial.....a great defense because you can never be wrong...
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