Tuesday, October 20, 2009

Seaway Valley delisted to pay off Hacketts' debts

Seaway Valley Capital Corp. - the publicly traded company that owns the troubled Hacketts retail chain, as well as Sacketts Harbor brewery and Alteri's bakery in Watertown - is no longer so publicly traded. CEO Tom Scozzafava delisted Seaway on October 9th and has suspended financial filing requirements with the SEC. Here are the filings. Seaway Valley will still be traded, but on the unregulated "pink sheets" stocks.

Scozzafava told me today the decision was "based on economics". He said his auditing bill for filing quarterly statements and the other disclosure requirements of a registered public traded company amounts to $300,000 a year. He said that's money he needs to pay off Hacketts' vendors, to whom the company is deeply in debt. Some, including Tru Value, have sued the company.

I asked Scozzafava what was going to happen to the 4,000-or-so common stockholders in Seaway Valley. How would they know the financial state of the company without filings? He said he'd "try to release disclosure statements anyway, to the extent that I can get 'em done. You bet." He said downstate CPAs Rosenberg, Rich, Baker, Berman & Company handle his books.

Seaway Valley investors will be displeased. One former investor said in an e-mail:
Basically this is going to put investors "in the dark." Seaway will no longer have to file quarterly and annual reports regarding its financial position. Tom Scozzafava will pull the "it costs too much to maintain" card. But in all reality, he wants to go to the "pinksheets" so that he is no longer 'regulated'.
Scozzafava is the brother of Republican Congressional candidate Dede Scozzafava. She's distanced herself from her brother's activities. But the Scozzafava family name is definitely tied up in the ongoing Hacketts saga.

Tom Scozzafava said he was concerned people will try to tie his sister to this, that she has more to do with Seaway than she's let on, and that's why he's deregistering the company: to hide th details. He denied any of that, saying, "I'm hiding nothing about Dede. I don't tell her what I'm doing with the company. Period."

As for Hacketts' financial condition: "It's stabilized, but we have a long road to hoe with our major vendors."

53 Comments:

At October 20, 2009 6:30 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for keeping the ball rolling on that David ! ;-)

Lets see if the SEC is investigating this...i bet there are more Shareholders in it still than Tom Scozzafava counts, am i right not sure because he reversesplitted the most out nicely (not the Preferred ones 4 sure !!)...hm.

 
At October 21, 2009 2:52 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Posted by: winnotlose Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:29:10 PM
In reply to: sacculina who wrote msg# 215411 Post # of 215422

Security and Exchange Commission is all over Tom Scozzafava's back, read these letters! Funny now he backed out as a reporting company!

(1)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/884380/000000000009018860/filename1.pdf

(2)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/884380/000000000009018862/filename1.pdf

(3)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/884380/000000000009018868/filename1.pdf

 
At October 21, 2009 7:53 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I laugh at the form that says "board of directors " of Seaway Valley Corruption Corp is disolved---Isn't there only one member??? And didn't Scozza baby convert DeDE common shares to preferred shares and then just before this filing convert preferred shares to Bonds? Is that a correct analysis---well now no one will ever know because the board of directors wont tell you.. DeDe can hire Tom as a financial adviser when she goes to Congress, they should fit right in with Dodd, Ranghle,Pelosi,Reed, Geitner and company--enough is enough is this the best we have in NNY and USA???/

 
At October 21, 2009 11:01 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,
Can you send me an "update" on how I can recover the $70,000 you scammed from me with inaccurate financial disclosure?

I especially like the one where you "discovered" the legacy debt convertible at .0001 per share price!

Lucky I don't live near you!!!

 
At October 21, 2009 3:08 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your not the only one that has been scammed. Tom has been lying for years about this company and mismangaging funds. It's been rediculous. How many different tickers has this company had. And now they are dividing up the company so they can keep whatever is of value. I'm out quite a bit too, lost big and have been holding out just in case I could recoupe anything. Now my share amount is so small it doesn't even matter.

 
At October 21, 2009 5:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go to IHUB for some interesting reading.I to was scamed by the Scozzafava family as were many others.Today Rush mentioned his sister on his talk radio show, and spoke of her many misguided ways. I suggest we all get togeter for a Class Action. IHUB is a great! place for investers.GLTA!!!

 
At October 21, 2009 9:41 PM , Anonymous John (Scoter) Wetmore said...

I ran a profitable RadioShack fanchise for 13 years until Tom bought the franchise from me. Now a large portion of my retirement is hanging by a thread. The worst part is that Tom does not communicate when he says he will and his promises seem to mean nothing. In my opinion Tom is not an honorable person and if you believe that the apple never falls far from the tree I would never trust any member of his family. I personally know of less than proper business activites with other members of his family. At this point the name Scozzafava sickens me.

 
At October 21, 2009 10:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scooter, as one of the anti-DeDe ads on the radio says, it's the ACORN that doesn't fall far from the tree!

Good luck trying get paid off.

 
At October 22, 2009 9:19 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this point the name Scozzafava sickens me.

They make me sick i totally agree !
Nice move of Tom now gagging the company filings , it leads my mind thinking that they now are able to dump their holdings for even a profit and NO ONE is able to track it..oh well.. where others lost XX Millions of Dollars ?
VERY NICE !

Hope the SEC rips em off like they ripped us off with their well planned "orchestrated" Pump and Dump Scam..

Legal ? Oh well..if yes i am VERY happy to live in Germany !
I alone lost 12.000$ only because i trusted this guy.
I once counted 40 shareholders losses together and reached an amount of a total loss around 1.3 Million $.
There were 4000 Shareholders and i know it can not be a "misprint" like Tom stated to the SEC because ihub alone had around 900 Boardmarks on the Seaway Stockboard. I know around 10 Stockboard links even in Germany there are two and there were alone in germany around 50-70 individual people posting there + two friends of mine bought shares and they NEVER EVER read a Stockboard.
I dont buy that SWVL only has 127 Shareholders...but could be after all the Reversesplits which made our pockets empty and enriched YAGI and maybe finally the Scozzafava's. (hint: the preferred Shareholders never got reversesplitted like the common's.
Nice trick eh ?)

_bbb_

 
At October 22, 2009 1:16 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom sold his Shareholders behind their backs completely to the RATS of the Wallstreet by signing up toxic deals (which he certainly never PR'ed) still was printing PR's starting with "Dear Shareholders...." full in the know that the effect of those finance deals will collapse the shareprice bigtime, and for that kind of actings there is certainly NO excuse at all !
He knew DAMN well with who he singned up the deals BUT many unexperienced investors read only his lying PR's , not the filings which most never understood aswell.
From a morality standpoint Tom is in my eyes a bigtime scammer because he "tricked" me and my friends aswell , end of the story ! I once was happy to be invested in Seaway but i and many others had to open their eyes sooner or later and whats left is only feeling betrayed
and a chewing gum in our hand which Tom sold us for thousands of Dollars !!

_bbb_

P.S. A chewing gum is not worth 10 cents but maybe Tom can explain better whats happened ?

 
At October 22, 2009 1:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I decided to stop post anonymous ..i stay with everything i posted even when it got removed because of wrong wordings etc. i sure understand the moderators here that it some things got to be removed..however.

Thanks again David to make it possible to talk about the issue here.

_bbb_ = The investor from Germany of your Seaway Report several weeks ago ! :-)

We investors are sure no bad guys but sure we just want to open everybodys eyes that Tom and also Dede however she is involved are sure way worse than we are with our wordings..LOL !!

Why do i laugh ? Because i do not care about money lost anymore just the fact that someone ABUSED mine and my friends trust...and be sure they acted out of GREED !
They sure do not care about trust...with their "DEAR SHAREHOLDER" ..blabla
All what counted to get quick money by promising acquisition lies in PR's that NEVER happend + false financial outlooks to let YAGI convert BILLIONS of Convertible debenture shares quickly...all on the back of the shareholders...TODAY i see it very clear everyday on other stocks...it's all just a bigtime scam...and i WARN everyone to never ever throw a dollar into stocks like that, its always the same ! And when you see Yorkville advisors in a filing STAY AWAY..ITS A POS ! ALWAYS !
Does it excuse Tom ? NO !

_bbb_

 
At October 22, 2009 1:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.seawayvalleycapitalcorp.com/pressroom

And all the PR lies are gone/erased...WHY ??

Proof enough Tommy is not a clean guy IMO !

_bbb_

 
At October 22, 2009 7:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will Scozza ever talk to me or any of the investors ???

He even got my mobile number since more than a year i think...but he never called ...why ? Because he doesnt care and has no conscience !

_bbb_

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=40638180

 
At October 22, 2009 7:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know, maybe call me freaked out BUT this is the way i feel with Tommiboy...he never were a friend and now we really know !
Just let us go on with our lives ..we got scammed by you MASSIVE and its VERY hard to take a morality scam like that by someone who wrote PR's starting with "DEAR Shareholders".....all that was just BLA BLA BLA...and a ripoff from day one...
Will now stop posting but its clear to me and many others that we got nothing but ripped off massively by this crook and maybe some more involved ...have they sold their stake already ??? We never will know because Tom suspended filings !!! NICE after we already are down 99.99% !
There is no excuse what Tom did...as of morality standpoint he scammed us very hard behind our backs !

_bbb_

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=31914769

 
At October 22, 2009 7:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Listen this song(lyrics are great) carefully..it reflects all what is left what i feel with Tom...very nice development...call me a freak but its Tom to blame what happened with our "DEAR SHAREHOLDERS" relationship !

Hope he gets to jail for all his lies and ABUSE of Trust..will it happen..i do NOT think so because the whole US Gov is CROOKED aswell...hipp hipp hooray !!!
Dede getting voted..(911..help call the police" ..."reporters ask me strange questions" LMAO...haha if that happens i really am getting SICK of your country at all !
Is there no better in NNNY?
If i would life in your area i would vote EVERY "homeless bum" BEFORE i would vote her , and she is looking VERY tired on the pictures i seen lately on several newspaper websites ! JMHO !

_bbb_

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=31914769

 
At October 22, 2009 7:59 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

DEDE callig the police for nothing who pays that ?
Taxpayers !
What a shame !

 
At October 22, 2009 8:08 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

On October 7, 2009, the Board of Directors of Seaway Valley Capital Corporation determined that it was in the best interest of the company to temporarily suspend its filings as a reporting company and filed a Form 15 under Rule 12g-4(a)(1)(i) to effect this suspension.


Best interest of WHO ????

We soon know in this CINEMA !
Family & insiders cashing out imo !
WOW
Seaway is/was BK long time ago and only with the CD money kept alive...nice going Tom still PR'ing "DEAR Shareholder" statements ! YOU ARE A VERY BAD GUY IMO ! But thats my opinion....and just mine...lets see..but i bet you have nothing to show up anymore..so story as at near end ?
Dede gets voted then soon Seanix is BK officially ???
I have nothing to loose anymore...but the truth has to be revealed...

_bbb_

 
At October 22, 2009 8:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCOZZAVAVA... !!!!!!!!!!!! Sworn Enemy - Sworn Enemy

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BLA BLA BLA BLA....

They all are LOOSERS/LIARS..and i do not hold my breath here...
Goodnight :-)
_bbb_

P.S. if it doesnt suit the mods here go delete it but it is my opinion..and my due diligence...

 
At October 22, 2009 8:38 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QnBF-zT-c&feature=rec-LGOUT-real_rev-rn-HM

uhm...forgot to send the right link...

n8
_bbb_

 
At October 22, 2009 8:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

And yes i am a freak maybe..BUT atleast i am VERY proud of it HAHAHA !!!

TS can be proud of scammed MILLIONS out of very nice people..aka friends of mine !

GREAT & NICE PLAY !

_bbb_

 
At October 22, 2009 8:51 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

TS got NO conscience...not with his DEAR shareholders..neither with his employees !!!!!!!!
All he does good is working in tandem with his dilution banker buddys ! WOW GReat job TS..we all now know whats it all about. We hit on your shoulders...nice job !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=sj1C5Nnol3g

 
At October 22, 2009 8:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

And yes i am maybe a FREAK..but TS is a CROOK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)

Hope he rots in jail one day...this will the day the smile will come back to my face and many others...will it happen..i do NOT believe because the whole system is crooked like TS is...what a BUM !!!!!!!!!

:-)

_bbb_

P.S. Posting my opinion of 50 people i know thinking the same..they do not dare to post here or do not know the link...

 
At October 22, 2009 9:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The exploded cushion looks hairstyle-like lady called he police because of unsuited questions by a reporter...LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taxpayers pay for it...WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Remind she got a brother who scammed MILLIONS out of shareholders....

 
At October 23, 2009 6:45 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those interested, many heavy emotional truthful posts can be read on the ihub board if not already removed by the mod-squad. (see link below)

Seaway Valley Capital Corporation Inc. (SWVL)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=2966

I am finished here and make a cut now because this really ruins my life.
Mods please delete my posts as suited, but most of what i have posted gotta be said and written to get rid of the way i feel.
I am TOTALLY frustrated and many others still make through the same.
Sorry for my personal attacks but thats the way i do still feel and aswell i am only a human being.
Its not nice being scammed and totally ripped off, really not.

It is my own fault i invested in Seaway and lost money but i blame Tom that he abused our trust and until today not one word of a SORRY !
HOW can we feel other than frustrated and hateful ?????

I calm down now, lets see how the story ends, but sure one thing is clear..there will be NO happy end.

_bbb_

 
At October 23, 2009 3:16 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seaway Valley Cap (USOTC:SWVL)

Last Price (USD) $ 0.0001
Change ◊ 0
Bid -
Ask 0.0001
Volume 5,175,000
Day's Range 0.0001 - 0.0001
Last Trade 2:05:06 AM EDT

Shares are worthless since some days (NO BID) !

Link to chart:
http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=SWVL&p=D&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&i=t76196519145&r=2021

 
At October 25, 2009 12:55 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The SEC has launched Investor.gov, an investor-focused Web site to help you invest wisely and avoid fraud.

http://investor.gov/

Cool !

 
At October 25, 2009 1:59 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,

as there is still no sorry to your shareholders and you do not care one bit about us, i sent my opinion about our business transaction to the SEC.
I dont care anymore because you do not care either.

It's all to blame yourself !
I dont know if you did something illegal in view of law's BUT whatever they send me back as an answer in my eyes you ABUSED our trust ON PURPOSE !

"Filling ditches" is not want to expand huge/merge etc like stated in your Press Releases which you now hide on your website !

It leaves me in the opinion that all your PR's just were lined up to leave us in hope AND only were a dirty tool to get the dilution shares out ! ON PURPOSE !

IMO and not only mine...

 
At October 25, 2009 5:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,

this PM just got out to EVERY of my Seaway POS investorfriends i found back on my list !
I do hope everyone just sends a quick email to the SEC.

IT WAS UP to YOU to say sorry or change things but you did NOT care at all...you had ENOUGH TIME but you dont care at all !
Your problem not ours anymore..we lost the money you scammed out of us...ABUSE of trust needs be sued !

I personally have warned you several times ! But your Ignorance is bigger than your Arrogance maybe ?
We gave you time...but nothing out of you..just aarrogant "PFFFT" "i have done nothing blabla" we heared in the interview.
It's your prob you do not listen to your investors....you knew damn well that those financing deals were SCAMS and only lead to a crash of the PPS ALL BEHIND OUR BACKS after you lied the bluesky dilution end buyback and or divident bullsh** .
You betrayed the small guy , my dear friends which are unexperienced investors and imo you knew damn well what you did and still do...

WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOOSE BECAUSE WE LOST ALL OUR MONEY !!!!!!!!

WE LIVE WITH THE FACT OF BEING BETRAYED & ABUSED OF OUR TRUST AND BELIEVE ME THAT IS WORSE AS HELL !!

YOU HAD TIME TO MAKE A CHANGE BUT YOU DID NOT !!! ALL YOU SAID IN THE INTERVIEW WAS "PFFFFFT" !!

BAH ! YOU ARE JUST IGNORANT AND DO NOT CARE AT ALL..WHY SHOULD WE ????

Call me freak maybe i am but you are the worst guy i ever DEALT WITH !!!

We all thought to trust in you but we all were VERY WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!

----------------------------------
This i sent to all on my list just a minute ago and do hope that each and everyone will send a quick short email to the SEC:

---------------------------------
Do us a favor and send an email to the SEC aswell...i just DID ! The SEC has launched a new website to avoid scam !

http://investor.gov/

Send your mail here:
mailto:enforcement@sec.gov

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Could we please calculate up our losses ?
Please post your unvested money and sum it up in answer of this post...thanks !

1.Holter -95k$
2._bbb_ -11k$ (around 8k€)
3._bbb_'s two friends -2k$ (around 1.5k€)
4.dav1234 -15k$
5.kyle -10k$
6.JimsZ -4.8k$
7.plan4you -35k$
8. German_Trader -11k$ (around 7.8k€)
9. 0815ax -3.5k$
10.ferryman -10k
11.crooked33 -80k (uncle)
12.penny_in_dime_out -28k$
13.thomas_83 -22k$ (around 16000€)
14.mobrown -16k$
15.olmec - 4.5k$ (around 3.200€)
16.Sangamon Kid -25k$
17.Cpt Snoop -70k$
18.plotzenhotz (ariva.de) -9.4k$
19.kyle's friends -60k$
20.Bagholder34 -20k€ = 30 k$
21.Coop2z -47k$....
22.geoiguy1 -40k$
23.frankiboy & friends -69k$
24.Antwon Predoc -2.5k$
25.PennyNK -1.2k$
26.firebag1 -87K$
27.ajuna -9,5k$ (around 7k€)
28.ldogger -30k$
29.Palmer032 - $20k
30.Lochute -$40k
31.Hunch -2k$
32.iPickWinners -1k$
33.chunky-g -25k$
34.Tommer06 -10k$
35.dr no -3k$
36.Oldestboy -61,154$
37.GEO928 -3k$
38.RINY/THE ROOKIE -28k$
39.fasttrade -5.4k$
40.Tundramn -28k$
41.Going -8k$
42. donhke -59k$
43.amishsaint -3024$
44.
45.
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4000.

P.S. THESE ARE TOTAL LOSSES, The SWVL shareprice is at 0.0000 BID so the shares are WORTHLESS !!!!

 
At October 26, 2009 11:44 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

SWVL / Judge to make decision in Hackett family lawsuit
MONDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2009
ARTICLE OPTIONS
A A A CANTON — State Supreme Court Judge David R. Demarest reserved decision Friday following oral arguments in a legal action taken by two Hackett family siblings seeking money from Gouverneur businessman Thomas W. Scozzafava.

The lawsuit contends that Patrick E. Hackett Jr. and his sister, Julianne Hackett Cliff, both of Ogdensburg, are each owed $748,253.68 plus interest dating back to June 22. The lawsuit also claims Norman V. Garrelts, Hackett's former president and chief executive officer, is owed the same amount in connection with the $6 million purchase of Hackett Hardware Co. Inc.'s chain of retail stores.

Defendants named in the lawsuit include Mr. Scozzafava, Wisebuys Stores Inc., and Seaway Valley, the holding company that now owns Hacketts stores. Wisebuys is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Seaway Valley. No date for a ruling has been set.

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1 comment posted. (Refresh)
By rocket science Mon., Oct. 26 at 10:28 am
I pray for a fair ruling. God knows they may never see the $ but finally TS will get the punch in the gut many have begged for. He has ruined so many people's lives. He's like the Energizer Bunny, he just keeps stealing and moving on............Tom, know one day it will all catch up to you. The other prayer I say.COMMENT
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At October 26, 2009 2:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

HCKE - Hackett's Stores, Inc. Common Stock

10/27/2009 Record Date:

1-50 R/S
Notes:

New Symbol: HCKI

 
At October 26, 2009 2:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Comment from the HCKE board:

Posted by: JimsZ Date: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:17:56 PM
In reply to: flptrnkng who wrote msg# 64391 Post # of 64393

Didn't they just r/s the stock when ole tommy boy took it over?

Was it not a big enuf reverse or ?

Current Capital Change
shs decreased by 1 for 10000 split
Pay Date: Jan 26, 2009


Go Tommy Boy... Keep those reverse splits going

Oh wait, Maybe he wants to "UPLIST" hahahahahaha

 
At October 26, 2009 6:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Posted by: what up Date: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:48:30 PM
In reply to: stockboy730 who wrote msg# 215447 Post # of 215448

News News News, Today Seaway siad they were going to put in a koolaid stand!!! Also working on a revised Buggy whip!!! Big things are happening!!! LOL

-----------------------------------
HAHAHA when i read that i got a unstoppable laughattack for more than one hour and asked people around me to call a doctor..

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Tommi is the R/S MASTER now he has 3 Shells to play his dirty games with WOOO WOOO TSCHUKK TSCHUKK BUY BUY BUY TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION.. TO DA MOOOOON !!!!!!! DOLLARLAND IS COMING !!!!! LMAO !!!!!!!!!
WHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
DOCTOR please i get outta air..HEEEELP !!!!!!!!!!!!

 
At October 26, 2009 7:08 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The day of a scammed seaway investor part#1 (10/26/2009):

Feeling betrayed and ripped off after a hard night deciding if i will email the SEC i had a hangover and overslept completely and got up 09:30 because i did not heared my alarm on my mobile phone...
Quick drove home (because i slept at my ex-wife..and she hates me because of my life changed which i do blame to Tom in some parts) and took a shower...
Sold BAC and CSCO calls for a profit this morning because a monday is never good to hold securities..LOL
Then i arrived work at 10:15 lately and started going on with my project , nice i had no internet connection on my schlepptop because i had to checkout how the ip packets go from left to right (hey tom..it works like with swifting assets left and right..LOL) ..and i had the final breakthrough in my project...it damn works now...WHEEE :-). CISCO ROXX !!!
So i decided to go home early because my company putted me in 50% because of the financial crisis...then home i bought my CSCO (Cisco) calls for cheap back because i have seen the market TANKED BIGTIME...and imo Cisco is a damn great company..hehe (not like Toms POS Company are):-)
Okay...then i decided to go shopping some food with my neighbor at the METRO supermarket..we bought Shells and lateron we cooked em and they were GREAT !!!!!!!! :-)
Afterwared i read the "news" about Seaway some "comedian" posted and i did not stopped laughing for more than one hour...LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
In the meanwhile i know that TS R/S'es HCKE agáin...and it tells me that i am damn right about what i do post here...

Goodnight
bbb

P.S. will keep on post my daily life here HAHAHA..oh yes i am only a freak..but what is TOM ??? LOL
Buggy whips ???? KOOLAIDSTAND ??????? HHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA STOP STOP STOP i cannot anymore..STOP IT PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
At October 27, 2009 4:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buggy Whips & KoolaidStand..LOL

Here is the EXTRA-Edition (well analyzed):

Posted by: extra Date: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:53:35 PM
In reply to: holter who wrote msg# 215440 Post # of 215449

sw++ Never 'took' any money ...

Just hundreds of more-than-willing averaging-downers ,
proudly announcing their 'strategies' , in an attempt to
convince hundreds of others , to keep Willingly Giving .
[And , it worked ; and still works ; as it always did .]

In spite of years of obvious Facts , posted ~every day ,
[although , often soapily sponged away , ASAP] ,
by a few sw++ shorters , who [IOO] easily collected
more than $10,000,000 in quick and riskless sw++ profits ,
while 4000+ sw++ fans more-than-willingly kept pumping in
more than $40,000,000 in new cash , for many years ,
and even continuing , today , right cheer , and even
'moving on' into hundreds of other not-ever-reporting ,
and for many years , always-cash-burning 'stocks' .

By the way ; ALL U.S.-trading 'stocks' REPORT to the IRS .
Just , NOT EVER to their long fans , for a 'reason' .
Even though it would 'cost' $ZERO to post a 'copy' .
Shorters know exactly why , to their riskless benefit ,
alongside their winningly , while barely 'compliant' , CEO's .

BottomLines :

1] Totally Non-Reporting pennys+pinks , like sw++ , can
just keep collecting more new cash from willing givers .

2] While R/S'ing , as the SEC stays 'too busy' , elsewhere .

3] While the pink/penny shorters keep risklessly + quickly
collecting 10-50% of the contributions from the long fans ,
who just keep averaging-down , and 'convincing' others .

For example :

" Posted by: holter
Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:06:02 PM
In reply to: therealtruth10 who wrote msg# 206235
Post # of 215448

therealtruth, I have been gone and just looked. Yes, finally 16,71,954 shares now, filled 14,450,000. Come on TS get the motor started. I need a new pair of shoes. Got my average down for a while anyway. Now if I can just beat a new R/S. Or, better yet no R/S and CD's retired with core funding money also. "

Amazing Truth. And, less than 1 year ago.
And, even still continuing, as sw++s keep swapping.
And, now, the SEC can't even 'interfere' , thanx to dede.

By the way; Thanks to the huge daily share-volume of sw++ ,
day-trading shorters are still risklessly cleaning up ,
daily , by shorting @2 , and covering @1 , mostly offshore .
Averaging-Down is profitable for shorters , only [and All pinky/penny CEO's + Brokers + M&M's].

 
At October 27, 2009 5:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next one got scammed havent had him on my list (censored version):

Posted by: stockboy730 Date: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:28:06 PM
In reply to: None Post # of 215449

You can put me down for a 9k loss on my scamway investment. Nice to hear that p** Dede Scammafaza getting lambasted a bit on the Mark Levin show last week.

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Link to full version:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=42904157

Buggywhips and Koolaidstand:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=42905416

Extra-Edition:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=42916853

 
At October 27, 2009 5:16 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

David,

please please call me a doctor, those clowns really kill me sooner or later..LOL !

"Here they be dragons...URGH !!!"

How will i laugh tomorrow ???? When i can't even smile today ????

Con artists in USA@fullforce to even get voted..LMAO ! ;-)

Regarding Dede and her opponents:

They throw much money right out of the the window(read the press how much exactly) to only ATTACK themselves rather then spend the money to a "KINDERGARTEN" ! WHAT A SHAME !

I would not vote either side, i would vote DONALD DUCK or SUPERMAN or maybe Mickey Mouse to get the job done better ! LOL


Pling 9k$ more on my list scammed out of nice people....GREAT !!! NOT !!!

 
At October 27, 2009 5:22 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay textfile modified lets see who shows up next !
I wonder why Dede&Tom&YAGI and that Canouse Dude among others are not on my list..LOL

Hey preferred Shareholders post me your losses or did you dumped your holdings already for a profit ???
LOL

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Could we please calculate up our losses ?
Please post your unvested money and sum it up in answer of this post...thanks !

1.Holter -95k$
2._bbb_ -11k$ (around 8k€)
3._bbb_'s two friends -2k$ (around 1.5k€)
4.dav1234 -15k$
5.kyle -10k$
6.JimsZ -4.8k$
7.plan4you -35k$
8. German_Trader -11k$ (around 7.8k€)
9. 0815ax -3.5k$
10.ferryman -10k
11.crooked33 -80k (uncle)
12.penny_in_dime_out -28k$
13.thomas_83 -22k$ (around 16000€)
14.mobrown -16k$
15.olmec - 4.5k$ (around 3.200€)
16.Sangamon Kid -25k$
17.Cpt Snoop -70k$
18.plotzenhotz (ariva.de) -9.4k$
19.kyle's friends -60k$
20.Bagholder34 -20k€ = 30 k$
21.Coop2z -47k$....
22.geoiguy1 -40k$
23.frankiboy & friends -69k$
24.Antwon Predoc -2.5k$
25.PennyNK -1.2k$
26.firebag1 -87K$
27.ajuna -9,5k$ (around 7k€)
28.ldogger -30k$
29.Palmer032 - $20k
30.Lochute -$40k
31.Hunch -2k$
32.iPickWinners -1k$
33.chunky-g -25k$
34.Tommer06 -10k$
35.dr no -3k$
36.Oldestboy -61,154$
37.GEO928 -3k$
38.RINY/THE ROOKIE -28k$
39.fasttrade -5.4k$
40.Tundramn -28k$
41.Going -8k$
42. donhke -59k$
43.amishsaint -3024$
44.stockboy730 -9k$
45.
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4000.

P.S. THESE ARE TOTAL LOSSES, The SWVL shareprice is at 0.0000 BID so the shares are WORTHLESS !!!!

 
At October 27, 2009 6:31 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just sent a 3rd letter to the SEC...all those three pennystocks of Tom needs to get halted immediately because they are only STEALS.
The NNY Reversesplit con Artist is in full force ready to dilute more shareholders to death ! Weeeeeeeeeeee !

Lets drive to the Shareholdermeeting (there was never one and will never be one) with the new buggywhip's flagged up on the hayride and booze up the koolaid for free ! LOL

 
At October 27, 2009 7:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Posted by: dav1234 Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:35:03 AM
In reply to: _bbb_ who wrote msg# 258 Post # of 260

lets have a shareholder meeting next week @ Dede's place, i pick next tuesday (Election day),should be fun,lol.

 
At October 27, 2009 7:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Posted by: _bbb_ Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:37:12 AM
In reply to: dav1234 who wrote msg# 259 Post # of 260

Call the others and keep on mixing more koolaid, i bring the self knitted Buggywhips !!! LMAO !!!!!!

 
At October 27, 2009 7:39 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The good thing is we still having fun with our "unvestment". LOL

What a POS betrayal !

 
At October 27, 2009 7:51 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

New PR just out ! LOL
Stock must sell quick..LMAO !
What a persiflage...

 
At October 27, 2009 7:52 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_g23luxfc5AY/Sb83qTGiKTI/AAAAAAAAL7Q/pCOgxLhKOHc/s400/BuggyWhipsAd.gif

;-)

 
At October 27, 2009 9:28 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

OPINIONS posted from a friend in reply to a "probably" payed tout, aka Stockpromotor:

Posted by: JimsZ Date: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:28:03 AM
In reply to: sambo11 who wrote msg# 215444 Post # of 215449

Sambo -

There is nothing "positive" to post. Tom Scozzafava diluted shareholders to death, spun off anything of value, then went pink hiding it all!

 
At October 27, 2009 11:23 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Released: 11/19/07 02:09 PM EST

Finally, after management builds the underlying intrinsic value of Seaway Valley through its portfolio of cash flowing assets, the Company will aggressively explore value enhancing strategies such as parent debt reduction, share buybacks, and/or dividends. These strategies shall take additional time and will ultimately depend on the success of the underlying portfolio companies.

 
At October 27, 2009 11:24 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:56:37 AM
Management is focused on creating shareholder wealth with the
potential addition of these assets and will continue to work to
deliver these and others into the portfolio if and when appropriate.
Additionally, with less than $100,000 of the legacy sub-penny
convertible debentures remaining, we expect the significant dilution
to subside shortly. Thank you for your continued patience and
participation, and we look forward to additional activity in the
coming months.

 
At October 28, 2009 5:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Source (thit post got deleted by Moderators of the SWVL board, but i took a copy of it) i dont know if ALL the Information it staes is 100% correct but i see it the same way:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=42286580

Posted by: Desperado90 Date: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:16:27 PM
In reply to: sambo11 who wrote msg# 215293 Post # of 215304

I think you don't understand the situation here. We have a CEO who bought a nasty shell from a friend and business partner that was loaded with toxic debentures.

Then he bought Wisebuys for $6M but has now restated the values of Wisebuys to -$1.5M (Negative Value) when shareholders paid real money for an asset that ended up as negative equity.

Then we paid Millions for Hacketts but ended up with less than what we paid for again.

Then we had the hospitality deal that has basically been dissolved and Schwartz is gone.

Then we had the promise of several other so called acquisitions that never materialized.

Then we had the 30% of Agrifuel that Tom was claiming was ours LOL. That never materialized and from the records the case has been settled.

I can go on. You must realize the kind of wealth destruction that took place here.

If you keep telling us to shut up, I will start writing the SEC about you and other mods about the kinds of actions that should be investigated.

 
At October 28, 2009 5:45 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This a part of a reply to the deleted post:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=42287160

Posted by: LUCKYTT711 Date: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:31:22 PM
In reply to: A deleted message Post # of 215453

Again...AMEN!!! ...The attempted "whitewash" here does NOT erase the history of what has happened , and what is still happening ...imo...Good folks lost huge sums of hard earned dollars because of the deceit here...You can check the previous PR's and they go directly against what actually happened...imo...

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...the post continues and i stop it now.

"whitewash"= moderators deleting posts they dislike out of whatever what reason.

Tom still had the money left to buy the two new Shells where shareholders already have lost everything and vendors didnt got their bills payed ? How is that ?
If these are no shellgames i really don't know what shellgames are.
And what is the purpose of spinning Hacketts and the Brewery out of SWVL ? Sure Tom doesnt have to explain this because he owns more than 80% of the company and as SWVL is a pink now we may never ever know.

Many people warned us naive people and got deleted permanently or banned from the board at one point we started to believe/trust them mid 2008.

 
At October 29, 2009 4:26 PM , Blogger _bbb_ said...

David , Tom and Dede.

i hear the message in the mail back from Tom ! (Update Mail from Tom)

David, PLEASE remove ALL those posts on the blogs which contain personal attacks on Tom or Dede either i posted them or anybody else if that is possible.

I like to excuse my own both to Tom and Dede officially because i have insight that i did a huge mistake posting out of frustration.
I did mistakes by that, yes i do admit and say sorry here, i do really mean it. We all are only human beings and we all do have conscience and feelings, having that said its useless to spew hate or attacking each others, it doesnt help anything.

The whole story escalated long time ago because Tom doesn't talk to his Shareholders in a better way, by explaining better where we are and why things went bad for real.
This is why the Shareholders (me included) are so mad since a longer time, it drives them mad, it really does, they all are aswell only human beings and cannot take any abuse of trust.

I hope we get things deescalated, i dont care about my money loss anymore Tom, but it would be a good thing to come clean with your shareholders at SWVL, if you would do that we ALL together could be happy back, WITHOUT any personal attacks and or accusations.
Do we get there ?
I don't know, its up to ALL involved and long term OVERDUE and that's the reason we all get mad.

I admit i behaved not good and i hope you come into my same direction to deescalate the situation, if thats is still possible..i really hope it is.

You know Tom, i and others invested our hard earned money in your company because we really believed in you...we really did.
Turnaround things and truely explain what happened really and i will maybe do again.

This is probably the only chance of all involved , i sure hope we can take it to change our situation back thats all i can offer from my side at this time.

What can you offer Tom ?

I am really sorry about any post which probably contained a personal attack i really am !

Sorry !
Bernd Buchenberger

P.S. I will send this post to the shareholders and to the SEC aswell and i do hope we get some things solved for either side.

 
At October 31, 2009 3:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hm, we bought into a Pennystock and we should have known the risks...it is true that the filings show about the risks, but in the beginning noone of us read them, speaking of the CD deals they are maybe all legal, speaking about morality to common shareholders i see that different but that is another side.
I will calm down now here, its not worth anymore the whole dramarama every day and what is it worth to live with hate and being angry all day..NOTHING..i try to get rid of that feelings asap we all have when we read the next post on the SWVL board, i let ban myown on every pennystock board on ihub aswell , this works best. I write the money lost off and try to get over with the rest, i try to delete some posts which might contain personal attacks to Tom or Dede because it doesnt help it and i regret i got hateful, i only have to blame myown that i ever bought 12k€ of OTC stock...i bought in a hype and played myself. The story around with all the big IF's / Will / Blabla matters is highly flexible and below the Pressreleases its written EVERY time...
This is Pennyland and when i lost my money here its about to blame myown...it suxx bigtime but it is like it is and i accept this now finally.
ONLY ME TO BLAME TO BE SO STUPID...END OF MESSAGE !!
I REGRET BLAMING OTHERS ALL THE TIME I REALLY DO !!
I WAS A STUPID SILLY IDIOT - PERIOD !!!!!!!

b

 
At November 3, 2009 7:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Convertible debenture is a debt instrument that can be converted into stock at the option of the holder or the issuer.

http://www.businessfinance.com/convertible-debenture.htm

I take back that anything of that is either shady criminal or anything like that.
It can work when the company is cash flow positive.
I do hope that Hacketts survives, i really do and i do hope that Tom talks to his shareholders one day its a deep sea of frustration whats between them and him.

David, please remove the hate from the blogs aswell my statement that the financing deals are not legal or anything like that.

Thank you,
b

 
At November 3, 2009 9:05 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seaway Valley Capital as a business model could have worked, maybe it will still, hey they even had a WellsFargo loan of 5 Million$ (maybe that was the biggest problem that they had to pay back that) and thats why the story went ugly, i am leaving all my hate away i and many others completely believed in Tom one day we really did aswell because of the reputation of the people were lined up in the beginning (Ettore, La Chausse, Dede) we REALLY REALLY believed that all,
I "may" believe that Tom ran into troubles, but that would need ALOT of explanations to his shareholders or following shareholders.
I still cannot believe what happened ....i cannot.

And i put the gun down NOW and i do NEVER EVER touch it again on that ALL that with a loss of 12k$, i still own all the shares i bought but the sad part is that they arent worth anything and the story didnt developed that good like promised.

b

 
At November 9, 2009 12:42 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

SWVL 1-1,000 R/S last week :-(
frustrating for common shareholders if not spun out with that reversesplit. Some hope they can save Hacketts for it's history ?
Was there no way for a more shareholderfriendly loan at some time instead of toxic financing ?
ENOUGH supporting shareholders at that time to live without CD's and there were 10 shops open already.... a HUGE Questionmark in my live...

b

 

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