Is NCPR liberal?
A lot of the discussion here at the In Box has wrestled with these questions: Is public radio liberal? Does NCPR reflect that bias?
And what does it mean that we rely on government funding for a small portion of our budget?
All valid questions. Let me wrestle with them, then I'll look forward to your thoughts below.
First, I do think public radio is liberal. But only in the sense of the word when used like this: "liberal democracy" or "liberal education."
What do I mean? I mean that we try to confront pressing issues in our communities, issues that some individuals and groups would prefer not to talk about.
If you think it's 'liberal' to acknowledge environmental degradation or poverty or racism, then yes, we're liberal.
But once we raise those questions, we do our best to reflect the public debate fairly and honestly.
That doesn't mean we always tell "both sides of the story" equally. Sometimes, our research indicates that one side or the other has a far better grasp of the facts.
A couple of examples:
Many of the human health claims made against wind farms aren't supported by independent, credible scientific research. We make that clear in our reports.
On the other hand, the vast majority of qualified experts do believe that climate change is real and triggered by human activity. We also make that clear.
If and when we find good data that contradicts those facts, we'll report it promptly.
Now, it's also possible for a news organization to show liberal bias by only asking one set of questions.
If NCPR only asked about the environment, for example, and not the economy -- that would reflect a left-leaning slant.
But anyone reviewing our story lists will find that we regularly probe concerns about burdensome taxes, big and inefficient government, the aging North Country population, etc.
We've led the region's media outlets in questioning whether an over-reliance on government jobs is dangerous or unsustainable.
We also regularly feature guests who hold traditional and conservative values. And while we often pose challenging questions to those individuals, we do so respectfully with a goal of illuminating their views for our listeners.
It's been suggested by some that we 'go easy' on guests from liberal or progressive groups.
In fact, NCPR's aggressive reporting has sparked far more anger and protest from left-leaning groups than from groups on the right.
The bottom line? Pundits on the left and right have worked hard to discredit the idea of a truly independent, unbiased news organization.
And they're right in a sense: It is hard to play the neutral party, to offer common ground where everyone feels welcome. We at NCPR make mistakes all the time.
But the mission here -- the compass we consult in every editorial meeting and every script edit -- is to be as fair and neutral as we can possibly be.
Finally, about the money. Yes, NCPR receives a small amount of funding each year from state and Federal grants. To be honest, I'm ambivalent about this fact.
The money helps us to create great programs and offer valuable services across our enormous broadcast area.
I happen to believe that government has a mission to foster arts and culture, at the same time that it provides more bread-and-butter services (roads, defense, etc.).
But in a time of massive budget deficits, I think an open debate over funding for public radio and television should continue.
And we'll report on it as fairly and accurately as possible.
--Brian Mann, NCPR


37 Comments:
I like JFK's definition of liberal: ...if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." JFKWhat I like about NPR reporting is that it is evidence based.
Pacifia radio out of Berkeley CA was the first "public" radio station in the US...through a long and contentious history it has been unabashedly left-wing in its orientation.
Many people (accidentally or on purpose) confuse NPR and NCPR with Pacifia which they are not and never have been.
I agree with the poster yesterday who said NCPR was "as radical as a PTA bake sale."
To me it certainly seems NCPR does it's best to stay "somewhere in the middle" in its news coverage which means, looking at the last Presidential election, that you will probably annoy about 1/2 the people all time.
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Amen.
I don't think NPR and NCPR are perfect but I think they both try to be as fair as possible and succeed at that far more often than any other news organization in this country.
They no doubt get heavily lobbied all the time by activist groups on all sides of various issues. I wouldn't give much credibility to a news organization who caved at whomever shouted loudest, even if it was "my side."
The simple fact is that if listeners think you're "too liberal" or "too conservative" or whatever then they have the choice to not listen to you.
Personally, I think NCPR is horribly biased against those who aren't audiophilic!
Too many citizens want echo chambers. They now have more than their fair of options to get that. I hope NPR and NCPR remain for those of who us who don't.
And just bear in mind that bias is all about perspective. If you're Milton Friedman, then Ronald Reagan was probably a "liberal."
"Yes, NCPR receives a small amount of funding each year from state and Federal grants. To be honest, I'm ambivalent about this fact."
I hope you're just as ambivalent, if not more, about the donations NCPR gets from big corporations, like Verizon.
And while I like the post overall, I'd rather you brazenly state that you're more devoted to accuracy than to fairness or neutrality. Phony "on-the-other-handism"--which gives equal time to coal-industry-funded global warming deniers, and gives credence to Betsy McCaughey's bogus insurance claims, for instance--is a big part of what's wrong with modern corporate journalism.
One of things that I always liked about NPR/NCPR reporting was that it was fair and balanced. I believe that they make an honest attempt to present both sides to any story. (I should note that the only thing I find offensive is ANY commentary by Daniel Shore.)
I listen to NPR/NCPR for good coverage of the news, both local and world news.
I don't consider you to be liberal or left-leaning. I wish I could say the same about the news that one finds on CBS, ABC or NBC.
When I travel, I find myself continuously re-tuning the radio to pick up the local NPR station. Thank you for all you do.
Macomb
I recently saw a bumper sticker that said "Believe Less, Think More. There are too many on both the left and the right who would rather be offended at anything which contradicts their beliefs than to examine the facts and come to a reasoned conclusion. I think NCPR gives us lots to think about and the information with which to do it and that is a good thing.
I think it's important to distinguish between a news organization that is "in the middle" when they mean they stand by and let political hacks of the left or right spout of untruths on the public airways and let them go unchallenged, and those that will challenge and question these statements. I have always been impressed by NCPR and the way they follow-up responses with questions if the response is deceptive. With journalism so lacking in the commercial media, its refreshing to see NCPR interviewers actually looking for truth in the message from anyone they interview.
I have no ill will for NCPR. I think they do a decent job staying in the middle. Their audience tends to be more in the middle in the north country. NPR on the other hand, in my opinion, is very left in a center right country. Most people I know that can stomach NPR are more than left of center. I know noone that is right of center that listens. It's all about catering to your audience for donations and operating money, thus the slant. As with all media, it's where the money's coming from.
The problem I have with the mainstream media today is there is no investigation. They simply repeat any study or poll that is hand fed to them. That is where the slant comes in. The source of information often times is where the slant starts and the media chooses a side and doesn't do enough to truly look at the other side of the arguements and give time to that. For example, why aren't New Yorkers upset that Charlie Rangel is a tax cheat and if it was you or I we would have been in jail for 10 years long ago. Yet, tax payers keep paying his salary and allowing him to hold rent controlled apartments for offices, etc. Where is the media looking into this criminal? Oh, I forgot he's a democrat so he gets a pass. It's things like this that have made people turn to the internet for actual news, because newspapers and TV news hardly hold politicians feet to the fire like they are supposed to do. It is their duty.
This all has helped feed the distrust of government. Politicians on both sides aren't under the same laws that the general public is and that isn't right. Commit a crime, get arrested, go to trial, get convicted, and go to jail like the rest of us would.
Previous poster says major problem with mainstream media is "no investigation."
Think of this every time you see the headline, "X media axes 25 (or 75 or 200) from newsroom" Some more investigative reporting might well have been done by these empty chairs.
Dan Shorr's pieces are clearly labelled as "opinion" and, for my money, a man still working at 92 is entitled to all the opinions he wants.
I think NCPR tries to be fair. But it all depends on where you start from. If you think the income tax is a Constitutional law in the first place, then you come from a different view point than I do. If you think the 1st Amendment is sacrosanct and any violation is a crime, but the 2nd Amend. is a very flexible overall rule applying to the military- then we come from different views.
I listen to NCPR and NPR and I also listen to Glenn and some times Rush. I also listen to CNN, CBS, CBC, BBC, etc. When I get interested in something I research it. I don't buy Global Warming for a second based on my research- not in the way it's presented. It's nothing but a money and power grab. Others buy it hook, line and sinker. That's fine. If NCPR buys it as fact that's fine too. But a little research into the alternative views would show that what we've been told isn't necessarily the whole story. And that's the way it is with most news that's covered. The "news" dug through decades of Bushes records and they were splashed across the nations TV screens. Yet, a simple birth certificate, college records, etc are locked away from view. Why wouldn't we be suspicious. When the press tells us we're foolish...sorry, I just don't buy it.
So if you come from where I am you tend to distrust any news source, Fox included, and you tend to see the slant. Fox from the right NPR from the left. When NCPR continually takes a stand that seems leftist to me, then that's my perception. I've seen nothing to change it so far.
Incidentally- in my teens and early 20's I was a raving liberal. Jerry Brown was the man. Jimmy Carter pretty much killed that train of thought for me. Thanks Jimmuh, at least you did one worthwhile thing.
Bret,
Lots of reasons to hammer Obama, but his citizenship is not one of them.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
Please stop spreading that.
I think NPR, NCPR, and the news hour with Jim Lehrer are much more informative and professional than most other media outlets. In spite of the shrill tone of their editorials the wall street journal is another example of quality journalism.
As someone who trends toward liberalism in national politics and conservatism in state politics (or perhaps it is partially a question of parochialism as I believe the national GOP is southern dominated and the state Democrats NYC demonated, regions I view negatively) I agree that perceptions of bias are influenced by your own political views. That being said I find that this blog has a distinct liberal slant and have occassionally noticed a slight liberal slant to NPR.
Brett, what about the sixteenth amendment? Doesn't that give the federal government (I presume you're talking about the federal and not the state income tax) the authority to levy an income tax?
I'm a pretty frequent listener (well, was until my car radio stopped working). I think it's important to distinguish between the national NPR programs and NCPR. Their national programs, I think, do often have a liberal slant in the stories they choose to cover, who they talk to for them and how they present them. NCPR does not.
lib·er·al (lĭb'ər-əl, lĭb'rəl)
adj.
1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
I hope NCPR is liberal. Our founding fathers were. Our Constitution and Bill Of Rights are liberal concepts.
Political Parties have attempted to revise the meaning of the word for political gain. It is always an honor to be called Liberal.
Wow, Liberal??
Nope, not in the least. I am very liberal and as I listened to NCPR and NPR, during the presidential election, I would get so steamed up that I just had to turn it off.
No, they are far from liberal. They always quote surveys that are clearly slanted towards the center, and the right.
No, not liberal.
During the campaign, I recall that they were clearly anti-Obama. They would clearly slant in favor of Clinton or McCain whenever possible. They have had numerous interviews where the people would make blatant comments filled with misleading information. Not once did the NPR interviewer question them, or set the record straight.
I do note get my information exclusively from NPR. That would be a huge mistake.
Yea, the other commenters that say they listen to Rush and Glen. Well, if they think you are too liberal, that should tell you something.
I read Daily Kos, and I watch MSNBC. They have facts, not crap lies and misleading interviews disguised as news.
No, NCPR is not too liberal, but Hoffman is obviously too "scaredy cat."
"That doesn't mean we always tell "both sides of the story" equally. Sometimes, our research indicates that one side or the other has a far better grasp of the facts"
Why not let both sides tell their story instead on doing it this way and let the people decide. This is what makes a radio station lean to the left or right. When you do it the way your doing it, per your words, it makes you look like your leaning instead of being neutral and reporting the story.
"That doesn't mean we always tell "both sides of the story" equally. Sometimes, our research indicates that one side or the other has a far better grasp of the facts"
Ok, so let's try this again, stupid computer......
Why not let both sides tell their story and let the listener decide for themselves. When you only present one side, despite the "research" you look like your leaning to one side. This is what makes a radio station appear to lean to the left or right. When you do it the way your doing it, per your words, it makes you look like your leaning instead of being neutral and reporting the story.
Thats what a radio station should do, report the "WHOLE" story, regardless of the audience. Remember that there are two sides to every story, right or wrong !
"Anonymous said...
Bret,
Lots of reasons to hammer Obama, but his citizenship is not one of them.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
Please stop spreading that.
October 30, 2009 3:11 PM"
Look into who Snopes is before using them as a source. All it would take is some "transparency" to settle the issue. What's he hiding?
In regards to JFK's definition of Liberal, I will just remind readers of another saying: If you don't remember from where you came you probably won't know where your going.
May not be exact wording, but makes the point. Progressivism that forgets the values of the past is doomed to failure. Visa Vee where we are today.
Anon Oct 30 8:03 - As for giving every side of an issue the same amount of coverage, I don't agree. For example, I've had a problem with the reporting of the climate change issue with having to give equal time to both views (it's happening, it's not happening) Something like 98% of climate scientists agree that there is human induced severe climate change going on and only 2% don't believe it (I don't know the actual numbers by they are that extreme) So why do we need to give 50% of the attention to those that believe what only 2% of scientists say?
If 999 people look up and say the sky, like it always has been, is blue and one guy comes along and says "no it's not, it's green with pink polka dots", do we need to give half the reporting of this new revelation to the purple sky guy?
I agree with Brian M on this. It's a responsible journalist's job to look over all the evidence presented and write a story based on the facts, and part of that coverage is determining just how serious some ideas are - if there really isn't anything there to substantiate the idea, it doesn't really need, or deserve, much attention.
Conservatives that forget we were founded on progressive ideas from Liberals are doomed to failure.
"Look into who Snopes is before using them as a source. All it would take is some "transparency" to settle the issue. What's he hiding?"
He's posted the certificate on the Internet; reporters have flown to Hawaii to see it personally; two newspapers printed notices at the time of his birth...
What's he have to do, fly to your house and everyone else's to present it to you personally? I don't think that's fiscally responsible.
Seriously, you sound like one of those Free Mumia or Bush created 911 crackpots. You're better than that, dude.
I repeat- what's he hiding? He released squat.
In a word....YES
Karma said "I read Daily Kos, and I watch MSNBC. They have facts,not crap lies and misleading interviews disguised as news."
They're both about as far left as F0X news is to the right. And Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow both spew crap lies and have misleading interviews!
JDM says...
ncpr, and npr, for that matter, present news from the perspective of left of center.
When you can't address the conservative issues from the conservative's perspective, i.e., we're not anti-abortion, we're pro-life, then you can't see the other side's position.
When global warming is gospel science and all other views are uneducated boobs, you can't even see past the middle.
When Sarah Palin is a ditz, and Joe Biden is a genius, you're not quite making past the mid-field line.
You might as well admit it. NCPR and NPR are left leaning.
If you were fair and balanced, as you claim, then why haven't you run one story from one of over 1,000 expert scientists who think global warming is a hoax? Hmmmm?
How about getting one of a dozen republican senators on the air who think tort reform is where to start with health care, not government take over. Hmmmm?
Can you say "pro-life"? or will that tag you as a wacko conservative with your cronies? Hmmmm?
Can you get a pro-life advocate on the air, just once, to talk about the holocaust of abortion that is tkaing place in this country? Hmmm.
No, you're too liberal to even let a conservative speak on the air.
Conservatives!! Why can't you be fair and balanced? Is it that hard to say you are Anti Pro-Choice? If you want to be called Pro -Life, that is fine. But you then must also refer to the other view point as Pro-Choice.
You cannot have it both ways. Does not matter. It is the Law, has been the Law for a long time and will continue to be the Law. If a Compassionate , Conservative Republican President with a Republican Congress and Senate that walked Lock Step ( It is rule number one to be a Conservative-absolutely NO individual thoughts) did not attempt to rewrite the Law ( they have the power ), then it will not get done. And no, the Supreme Court will not either..
Anti Pro-Choice. Got it?
Sarah Palin is a ditz ( just listen to her )who was elected to do a job and then walked out in the middle of it. Not sure I would want her as a supporter. She does have good eyesight though, she can see Russia from her window.
Can't wait to read her book " Running Rouge."
Wow, this is a great discussion and I commend you Brian, for having the courage to open the debate.
How we define Liberal is key to this discussion. Our founding fathers were classical Liberals. That would place them on the Conservative side of today's political lexicon because they believed in more freedom and strictly limited government.
For this debate I believe the modern definition of Liberal applies and by that standard NPR must be considered Liberal but NCPR would fall barely left of center.
This is not because NCPR tries to present a leftist view but is due to the fact that journalists in general, as proven through numerous surveys and polls, lean left and therefore view things from that perspective.
That being said I find that NCPR makes an honest attempt to present issues, not political perspectives. I travel the country extensively and listen to public radio frequently and can honestly say that NCPR is one of the most centrist public radio stations in the U.S., eschewing political advocacy in a way that I wish other stations would follow.
On balance, I find NCPR attempts to present fair reportage on most issues but not all. Your acceptance of scientific consensus over scientific fact with regard to climate change is maddening at times.
Nonetheless, NCPR is a great community asset and truly indispensable for a region as vast as the Adirondack North Country. Keep up the good work!
JDM says...
Thanks to the liberal for emphasizing my point.
I am a conservative. I say "pro-life".
You are a liberal. You say "abortion rights."
That's my point. If NCPR claims not to be biased, they must speak from both sides.
If they use the liberal terms to describe the conservatives, then they are biased.
My point exactly. Thank you.
JDM .....
Exactly. It is pro-life vs. pro-choice. We agree on that.
Fortunately, it is becoming less of a divisive issue , and soon will not be an issue at all. Advances in medicine, i.e. the morning after pill, have allowed people the freedom to make decisions free from Government intervention. Our Founding Fathers would be proud.
All the people bitching would not have any problems if RONALD REGAN had NOT repealed the FAIR TIME BROADCASTING ACT that opened the door for propaganda media so thank him and REGANOMICS !!!
"REGANOMICS".....
Now thats funny. The record shows that after eight years in office he doubled the size of govenment and tripled the deficit. Never once did he veto a budget. They are still paying billions( 150 billion at last count ) for his " star wars " program that to date has still produced nothing. The only trickle was down Americas leg, and it was not pretty.
Arguable one of the worst Presidents in history. But what a smile and an actors touch for giving well rehearsed lines.
America does have to forgive him somewhat. It is now apparent that the early onset of Alzheimers had something to do with his decisions. And that part is not his fault. It does explain his nodding off at public events.
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